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Post by Materialgrl82 on Mar 31, 2002 19:51:39 GMT -5
[glow=red,2,300] More... Submitted by Princess Ruby There are so many different answers to that. In my opinion, the main reason that there are so many Trories is that Rory and Tristan are not a couple on the show (especially now that Chad left ...). So there are so many different angles to explore when writing the story - how they got together etc. Plus 'you always want the impossible'. As well, Tristan has so much inner turmoil, there is so much of hurt under the 'rich boy' facade which is so interesting to write about. And of course, there is the sexual tension, the undeniable chemistry, the witty banter and the fact that Tristan is just so d**n hot! Submitted by Cowgurl OMG! They would make the cutest couple ever! Talk bout 'sexual tension' lol. If Tristan doesn't come back to Gilmore Girls and snatch Rory, I swear, I might just kill myself! How long must we wait? Huh? Submitted by Stacy They challenge each other. There's passion and heat and all the things that Rory doesn't have with Dean. Dean is like the fairy tale boyfriend, the flawless one. They always agree with each other and they seem to be perfect for each other. Except that I think Rory needs someone to banter with her, make her think, inspire her - and in a way, that's what Tristan needs too. His life must be very cold and lonely, and Rory is the one who can make him feel alive. She's naive and innocent enough to make him want to protect her, but at the same time she's independant enough to take care of herself and not be all clingy and vapid. Submitted by Melissa Sure Dean is cute, funny and all and all a sweet boyfriend but why would you want to date someone so predicable? Whereas with Tristan she came be surprised everyday with new things she can learn about him. Sweet is good but it's like eating too much sugar, there is sweet then sickening sweet. Plus who wants a buyfriend who will break-up with you because you couldn't say I love you? Real sweet, the boyfriend should be understanding and I believe Tristan is just that. Submitted by Ally Tristan sees Rory as a girl that could kick his butt and he finds that attractive. Rory also didn't fall flat on her feet, drooling after Tristan. Tristan is a mysterious guy...he most likely lives in a huge mansion...cold, quiet, everything untouched...including himself. Rory could teach him stuff he's never done before...like wishing on eyelashes, saving sea glass...little things like that. And of course bantering...aka sexual tension. Submitted by Patty Abalos Rory and Tristan? OMG they immediately intrigued me...I mean, Rory + Dean, they're nice to watch and all, but its the Trory scenes that I find myself rewinding my tape and watching over and over again...its the TRORY fics that I went searching for as soon as I started watching Gilmore Girls...(luv the site u have here btw! lol keep up the great work!) They have sooo much chemistry and the sexual tension is through the roof...I just love them. Submitted by Kim I think Rory and Tristan are made for each other. They belong together not Rory and Dean. They look so right for each other. Tristan is hot and sexy and Rory is sweet and cute. They are the perfect couple. Submitted by Chelsea Rory. Tristan. The names just say it all. There's really no way to describe why they should be together. They just should. Submitted by Tristan n Rory Gal Tristan and Rory are perfect for each other. Dean is so controlling and gets upset whenever Rory is near Tristan (think 'bout the Romeo and Juliet eppy). Tristan is the mysterious bad-boy that we all love to love! Dean is so boring and dull, I hope Tristan comes back! Submitted by Carol Because they are so good together. I don't like Dean. And if they flirt anymore I think I'll be sick. Submitted by Cecilia Why them? Because obviously they complete each other and have special relation that I think many people will never come close to having. Submitted by Kay Dean think's he's hot stuff on a silver platter, but he's really cold crap on paper plate...and the sooner Rory figures that out the better. Submitted by Eterna Tristan tries soo hard for Rory, but he masks his love with his ego and confidence. It's kinda bittersweet. His love is completely obvious (even Dean sees it!), but Rory being the sweet lil' girl she is, is completely oblivious to it! More in the next post... ~*Susie*[/glow]
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Post by Materialgrl82 on Mar 31, 2002 19:52:58 GMT -5
[glow=red,2,300] More for the campaign... Submitted by Dianne I like Rory and Tristan together because I like the relationship they have. They fight and banter all day long at school but at least they always have something to say to each other. I would rather that than a boring boyfriend who you constantly have awkward silences with or a boyfriend who dumps you because you can't say I love you... Submitted by Lisa Rory has has to many innocent things in life. Dean is just that nice small town guy with looks that show of the perfect guy that you dream of. Tristan is different. He's that rebel that's had a hard time growing up. Inside he's really sweet, he's just grown up learning to mask his feelings. Rory and Tristan are great together because she brings out the best in him and he challenges her the best way possible. Submitted by Anna Most girls are attracted to bad boys. I'm not too sure why, but with Tristan, you know that bad boy exterior covers up a sensitive side, and you hope that you'll be the one who brings that out. Tristan's like a treasure box, you're not too sure what's inside, but you know it's got to be good. Tristan can take care of Rory, but Rory will also take care of Tristan, emotionally. Who doesn't want to be the one who heals the sexy bad boy? It's always so (bitter)sweet when the guy likes the girl and the girl has no clue thathe likes her, or that she has feelings for the guy. You're anticipating for the day that the girl realizes she has feelings for him (which is what is lacking in the Jess/Rory relationship). Submitted by Erica What Rory and dean have is cute and all, but there is nothing even remotely interesting about it. It's the same thing you see in every high school in America. Big deal. But here, we have the rich boy with the disfunctional family, private school, and a sweet innocent girl. They are the perfect couple. The kiss in season 1, that was a kiss, a real kiss. It had sparks, if not fire works. They would be one of the best couples on television. Submitted by Liz While opposites do attract and Rory and Tristan definetly have chemistry, they also have the same things expected of them and the same future. Rory and Tristan are both raised with class, will both go to ivy league colleges and will both be very rich in the future. Dean or Jess will only be something that is holding Rory back from all she can be, but Tristan always is pushing her forward and keeping her on her toes. And besides, they are SOOO CUTE TOGETHER! TRISTAN, COME BACK!!! Submitted by Stargirl Rory and Tristan have the best dynamic out of all the guys that like Rory. Okay, so Dean's "sweet", but he's way too overprotective and controlling. And Jess is cool, but he and Paris would make a much better couple since they've both got tough facades. Rory and Tristan are so perfect for each other. Tristan's the best guy for Rory because he can match her witty banter, is ambitious and actually has goals, and is not only hotter than Dean, but his appeal is--well, more appealing! I hope Tristan comes back to the show soon! Submitted by Sugarbubblez There's something about Tristan and his character. He's sexy and an underlining of intrigue. All their banter. the kiss, the longing stares...boy wouldn't I want that!! Although there is a very little chance of getting Chad Michael Murray to join Gilmore Girls again, I think even Jess is better for Rory than Dean. (I still love Trory, I dont even read Jess/Rory fics) Rory and Dean, its cute,*I'm being sarcastic* its their first "puppy" love, but get over it! Dean's so jealous. Its nice to see or dream about a sexy/hot guy like Tristan to be in love with Rory. What would provoke Tristan... Submitted by Christine Because they have the bad boy/good girl thing going on where as Dean and Rory are good boy/good girl, which gets a little too perfect and a little too boring. Plus, there's a saying that reformed rakes make the best husbands, and it'll be a hella lot of fun to watch Rory reform Tristan.
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Post by Sara on Mar 31, 2002 19:53:06 GMT -5
Sheesh I leave for a few hours....
A restraining order? Give me a break! Rory was kissing him too! He wasn't trying to repossess her or anything.
Sure Tristan and Rory have a connection a very special one...He bothers her she tells him to go away. A unique one really...interesting to Tristan , torture for Rory.
And now there's an accusation that Dean would treat Rory differently around his friends? The truth is that Tristan could never make a good boyfriend to Rory because he doesn't know how to be one or for that matter how to get Rory to know the real him. Sure, Tristan was starting to become nicer but then he ruined it by asking her out. Instead of starting to build a good friendship with her he went ahead and ruined it. Which brings up another point that it would be difficult for Tristan to be a friend to her because a friendship requires honesty and letting the other person get to know you. Tristan demonstrates difficulty in even opening up enough to become a simple acquataince. The trories may say its difficult for Tristan to open up because all of years of coldness but lets look at Jess who has obvioulsy had a tougher life and he had no problem opening up to Rory. He didn't start to hit on her he became friends with her and is going from there. Yeah maybe we don't know the real Tristan and maybe Rory doesn't either but he has never given a chance to anyone to see the real him and when he did (i.e. the third lorelai) he colsed up right after in the season finally saying thing like I give youi permission to date me? Oh yeah Rory's ready to say yes now.
Dean doesn't enjoy their relationship? That seems a little off okay a lot off. Sure lately we've seen him angry but that's because he was angry with Jess and not with Rory sure he was hurt that she went to the picnic with Jess but two episodes later he's fine. And even when he notices the bracelet is gone he doesn't make a big issue...in fact right after he says that she should go look at the books and makes a compromise with her. That's what a relationship is sacrificing what you want for the other persons happiness. Dean has demonstrated this again and again.
The kiss was a big deal to Rory because she couldn't believe they had kissed and she regretted it. She wanted to tell Dean so that he wouldn't hear the news from Tristan who would make it into a big issue. True that honesty is important but like Lorelai said it would only make her feel less guilty about it and hurt him a lot. Because of the fact that she kissed Tristan after the night he said I love you.
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Post by Materialgrl82 on Mar 31, 2002 19:56:10 GMT -5
[glow=red,2,300] Last piece, for now... Submitted by Vicky The question shouldn't be "Why them?" but rather "Why not them?" I mean they're perfect for each other. I totally believe that opposites attract, and this relationship epitomizes that theory to the fullest extent. There is so much passion here! They each have their own opinions and they don't let the other one overpower what they've got to say. The bantering is what makes it especially worthwhile. What's not to love?? Submitted by Tay Dean is really boring, and he just kinda lost interest. Trory's are my favorites fanfics(of all fanfics ever created) I mean...I want Tristan back on the show, but...I feel really bad for saying this! Jesse is a OKAY Subsitute for Tristan. I'm not saying he's anywhere close to Tristan, but..he's still way better then Dean... Submitted by Lys I agree with Anonymous who said that Rory is still young. I think she should date a little before her and Tristan hook up. Dean and Rory are okay but he seems to be the kind of person that feels what he think is his is his forever. Way too possesive. A little is okay but he seems like a caveman when Tristan is around. Who wants a caveman as a boyfriend? Rory's too independent for him. Submitted by Alexia They're exactly the opposite and completely the same. Rory's alive and open, Tristan's broody and closed. Rory needs a stable relationship that tests her but doesnt provide things like jealousy. Tristan just needs a relationship exactly the same, serious, definitely not a no strings attached deal. He needs someone who depends on him, who needs him; and so does Rory. Its complex, but no one ever said love is easy. Submitted by Sophie The first time I saw Tristan and Rory together I knew that they were supposed to be together. With Dean and Rory it was just too easy. In most shows you have to wait for like half the season before anything really happens between a main character and a love interest. With Tristan there's a challenge, he's a much more complex character then Dean and I think he should have had more of a chance to show his true colours. The scene that sticks out most in my mind, is when Tristan has stolen Rory's books and she's telling Dean she loves him. The look of disappointment and hopelessness in Tristan's eyes when he saw them kissing was so sad!! There are far more sparks between Rory and Tristan than there ever were between her and Dean. Imagine if Tristan and Rory actually got together.. but I guess it's not gonna happen.. except in our dreams! Alrighty, thats it. Ill be back to reply to Saras statements. ~*Susie*[/glow]
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Post by Materialgrl82 on Mar 31, 2002 20:06:20 GMT -5
[glow=red,2,300] Alright, now that Sara rephrased my words, I sound like a deranged lunatic. And although I probably am a deranged lunatic, I didnt mean to sound like one! Alright, I wasnt saying that he really meant it that way when Dean and Rory were making out in the Chilton parking lot, jeez, the restraining order was a joke! Also, I didnt say Dean would treat Rory different around his friends, Im just saying we dont know. So its unfair to attack Tristan about it if you cant say fora fact Dean wouldnt as well. Dean does enjoy their relationship at times, but he always has this tense feel, make sense? And the kiss meant something to Rory, even unconsciously. Otherwise the confusion wouldnt work. I can totally understand that Rory would have guilt about kissing Tristan and such, but she doesnt play guys like that, its not like her. I know they were both hurt, but there had to be something there, even if she didnt notice it head on, it still makes her stay long enough that they do kiss. That has to count for something. ~*Susie*[/glow]
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Post by Sara on Mar 31, 2002 20:15:31 GMT -5
Rory tries to become his friend because she gets a peek at the real Tristan...but then he later closes up again. However, he refuses the opportunities to become friends. And yes Rory gets upset when he tells Paris about the kiss but you can see that they were friends at the season finally or at least she was able to speak civilly to him but he ruined it. Again I disagree with the point that Tristan didn't have several chances to become her friend. He could have said you know what lets start over and a frindship could have been born but he continued on the wrong path therefore making it impossible to become friends with him.
What do you mean love is not everything? Love is what brings happiness in a relationship. Lorelai and Christopher's relationship failed however Dean and Rory's relationship is quite different from theirs. You believe that Chris and Lorelai's relationship may have started like Tristan and Rory's banter...Chris is an open person so it is highly unlikely that he was a conceited richboy.
What could Tristan offer her? A look into the rich life...her grandparents could show her that and she doesn't want it. It looks like Rory is the one who'd do all the offering with a look at small-town life and a loving environment. It seems like Tristan is the one benefiting and Rory isn't getting much.
You trories are obssessed with that supposed romantic tension. There's tension alright but not romatic. She has fought him off from the very beginning getting angry and annoyed...but hey don't take it from me watch all the first season interaction between them it consists of Rory walking off, rolling her eyes, getting annoyed. In fact Rory even asks Paris why she likes him that he's a jerk and that its not a big deal that he's cute. When Paris says he's had a tough time she looks skeptical.
And now Rory doesn't really love him. She saw him walking away and she realized that if she didn't get up the courage and tells him how she really feels it would be over and she didn't want that. She was ecstatic when they got back together as seen in the pic that says meant to be.
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Post by Sara on Mar 31, 2002 20:28:35 GMT -5
And Rory was not confused about the kiss...she was confused about the break-up and everything she was feeling. She said the kiss was nice yes but right away she set him up with Paris...yeah she felt something alright.
Yeah Tristan may have the suave qualities but a lot of good they are doing him. He has so much difficulty opening up his emotions...and somehow I doubt that if it would have been Tristan and Rory in that situationhe wouldn't have been all over her. It would have been the same (sadly for me I can picture this and its not a pretty picture hehe)
The point is that Rory wasn't really able to change him. And I'll be honest here Tristan could have been a nice guy but he never made enough effort to do so. He got himself in trouble...regardless if you believe that AS P wanted to get rid of him... she knows the show so she made up the best way for him to leave. Tristan is gone period and he isn't coming back. His problems with his self-esteem were great ...the playboy act a cover up for a young boy who isn't really sure of himself. He adheres to society standards instead of trying to be himself and find his happiness.
Every relationship has problems ...and you accuse the narcos of making Rory and Dean to be fairy tale like but you trories make Tristan out to be some prince. With his calm, collected attitude. Rory and Dean have tried to work out there problems and yes their relationship may be shaky now but a couple can overcome things. A relationship with Rory and Tristan would have so many problems with Tristan's closed emotions and unhappiness. Rory wouldn't be able to reach him because he is always closing himself off.
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Post by Materialgrl82 on Mar 31, 2002 20:54:58 GMT -5
[glow=red,2,300] Argh! We sound so obsessive, all of us! Lol. I dont know if Im even stating points that are helping my case, but its about expressing my own opinion, so here goes. Tristan cant be friends with Rory. It doesnt work like that. You cant help who you love, and when you love someone so much and they just dont see it, it hurts. Would you be able to spend time with someone you love knowing they dont love you back? Its hard to be around people you care for if they dont feel the same. And relationships arent easy, they shouldnt be. If they were easy, people wouldnt break up. Thats also the great thing about relationships. You work hard for a relationship, and if its the right person, then it works out and the happiness is worth it. And who said anything about us saying you guys make Rory and Dean out to be a fairy tale couple. And we do not think of T as a prince. If we did, would half our posts talk about we know he has faults, but it adds to his personality. "A relationship with Rory and Tristan would have so many problems with Tristan's closed emotions and unhappiness. Rory wouldn't be able to reach him because he is always closing himself off."--Sara. You dont know that for a fact. Rory and Tris have never dated so you have nothing to go on. True, Tris doesnt open up to Rory, however they have a very fragile relationship, and he doesnt trust many people. How do you know Rory wouldnt be the one to break him? Cut the cold out of his heart? Thats the charm of a possible R/T relationship, is what Rory and Tristan can take from each other. Tristan can be exposed to a world of love, care and open-ness, while Rory can be recieve passion, care and support. Im not saying she doesnt get care and support from Dean, thats not what Im saying at all, but I dont see the passion with them. Anyways, this is just my personal opinion, it may agree with you totally, or you may ride me off like the deranged lunatic Ive already said I quite possibly am, but enjoy none-the-less. ~*Susie*
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Post by Princess_Ruby on Mar 31, 2002 22:03:04 GMT -5
Well since Rory got a peek at the real Tristan, apparently she likes the real Tristan enough to give him a second chance. And it is not as easy as 'let's be friends now', relationships are much more complicated in reality. It was probably hard for him to even deal with Rory's rejection, and when he did try to speak civily to her, she shut him out. I disagree with the statement that 'he ruined it'. He had total right to try and ask her out, since she was single, and he went to the trouble of finding out which artist was her favourite, so he actually knows her better than she thinks. And he probably believed that since they were "friends", she would end up going with him anyway.
Love isn't everything. If it was, Rory and Dean wouldn't be having the relationship problems that they have now. Of course love brings happiness but it has to be accompanied by many other things, such as trust. Christopher may have become an open person, but it is VERY likely that he started out as a 'conceited rich boy', since he had a very similar upbringing to that of Tristan. However, since his life took a very different turn after Rory, he experienced the real world without the pressure of his parents.
Tristan could offer her alot more than the look into the rich life. And you say Rory doesn't want it, I disagree. She left Stars Hollow High to go to Chilton, became much more involved with her grandparents, went to the country club, had that portrait done - so slowly she is entering that world. Tristan could offer her love, support, trust. He could also help her make new friends in Chilton, thus making her school experience much easier. They could also study together. He could help her understand the life of a socialite through the eyes of a teen, something her grandparents could never do, and maybe she would see why her parents made the choices they did. So in fact, they would both be benefiting because they would be learning from each other. But similarily, one could argue, what can Dean offer Rory?
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Post by GilmoreChica on Mar 31, 2002 22:04:17 GMT -5
He got himself in trouble...regardless if you believe that AS P wanted to get rid of him... she knows the show so she made up the best way for him to leave. Tristan is gone period and he isn't coming back. HE WASNT KILLED OFF!!!!!! HE CAN COME BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by Princess_Ruby on Mar 31, 2002 22:05:16 GMT -5
We are not obssessed with the tension , we just acknoledge its presence. And the romantic tension is underlying, evident in more than the eye-rolling. Even if Rory walks away and rolls her eyes alot, it doesn't mean that the romantic tension is not there. I disagree with the whole skeptical comment, she actually looked thoughtful. How do you know that it was not more like she was scared that she would once again lose the security of that relationship and she felt forced to say it? If she is so ecstatic about their relationship, why is she constantly turning to Jess nowadays? She very well could have felt something, and set him up with Paris because she just wasn't ready to go into another relationship so soon after a break-up. Tristan is suave, of course, and I, too, think that Tristan would have acted a little different in that situation. He probably would have at least said it back before mauling her! lol. (it is a BEAUTIFUL picture) Rory was able to change him. She began to bring out the Tristan that nobody saw, that was hidden beneath the facade. He made several efforts to show her the nice side. Admittedly, her reverted to Evil Tristan at times but he opened up to her more than he did to anyone else, so given time, he just would've gotten better. Obviously she knows the best way to let him go, but if he hadn't left the show, things would have definitely taken a different turn. He isn't coming back, but that's not the issue here. The point is that he stopped adhering to social standards because of Rory, he let the true person inside, not a young boy, but a sensitive caring person, show to only her. He tried to show her his real nature and tried very hard to find happiness with her. However, he can't just drop that nature entirely because it is what allows him to survive in that society. He will forever be a DuGrey and has certain responsibilities.
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Post by Princess_Ruby on Mar 31, 2002 22:07:15 GMT -5
I know that Tristan is not a prince. I mean 'us trories' talked about all his faults and the fact that he DOES have baggage. If Rory and Dean can work out their problems, whose to say that Rory and Tristan can't? Rory was able to reach him before so if they got to know each other better, then the relationship would just get better. Every time Rory tried to reach him, he didn't close off, but let her in a little, let her see the real him. And if Tristan was with Rory, I highly doubt that he'd ever be unhappy.
Also, Dean and Rory can only overcome if Dean actually stops the inane jealousy enough to see that their relationship is on the rocks. Rory is trying so hard to save it, hiding things from him, conforming to please him, yet he never seems to do anything to help her. Their fights or arguements usually begin because HE is not understanding enough.
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Post by Materialgrl82 on Mar 31, 2002 22:09:08 GMT -5
[glow=red,2,300] Thank god he wasnt killed off! I went into one of my infamous sappy movie marathons, and I was watching Shes All That(actually, Im watching the soccer ball scene right now, Freddie, scantily clad...yum! But thats not the point!) and sadly, like many other things, it reminds me of Tris and Ror. The idea that she doesnt really belong, hes the king of the place, but neither of them have what they need to be perfectly happy. See the movie if you havent. Basically Tris is Zach(Chad and Freddie, yummy comparisons ) and Rory is Laney. Anyways, done for now. ~*Susie*[/glow]
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Post by Sara on Mar 31, 2002 22:14:39 GMT -5
I agree that we sound obssessive...you'd think we were going to win something big.
However, while I do agree that relationships are difficult...sometimes people have to be willing to sacrifice what they want for the other persons happiness...Tristan realized in runaway little boy that Rory wasn't going to like him no matter how hard he tried that's why he didn't kiss her he respected her relationship with Dean. He saw how happy she was with him and he knew that while it hurt him he had to let her be happy...Tristan earns my respect in that matter. In that scene he displays maturity and understanding. When he said so things are going good between you two he realized that he had to let her go. While you may think that there's all this romantic tension in reality there isn't. Rory thought of him as a possible friend if they could get past all the mean banter. Tristan couldn't take that...so he closes off once again. Sometimes two people fall for the same person one person always loses. In this case it was Tristan maybe later it will be Dean to Jess...but right now we are concerned with Tristan...he isn't able to start a friendship with her and a relationship needs a friendship as well as love and passion. He couldn't form that with her...which is why I believe that a relationship between Rory and Tristan wouldn't work. Sure there might be passion that he has for her but underneath it all it would lack a special bond that Dean and Rory have. Yeah, Dean and Rory's relationship may not be the most exciting or life-thrilling BUT they share a bond that's difficult to break...something that would be hard for Tristan to do...because like you trories said 17 years of coldness doesn't leave right away and Rory wouldn't be able to break it because yes she's kind and good but she is also very sheltered and naive. She doesn't quite have the comprehension of a serious relationship. Yes she and Dean are in love but they are also kids. She wouldn't be able to break through Tristan's tough exterior. She is not mature enough to think at those terms. She has no intention of getting into a serious relationship...something that would take so much time and effort...she has dreams that no one will stand in the way of. Dean and Rory share that special bond that overtime will mature into something greater because of their bond and love and because they are both on the same level relationship wise. Rory moves slowly and Dean does too. Rory did love him when he said I love you but her own committment hang-ups made it difficult for her to say. Remember when that girl at the debutante ball said oh you are totally getting married and how scared Dean and Rory were. They both have committment issues but Dean was always the one that took the first step making him ideal for Rory to have a blossoming relationship with.
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Post by Sara on Mar 31, 2002 22:22:39 GMT -5
You have also done your best to ignore Tristan's jealousy. Picking the fight with Dean was a form of extreme jealousy...he had no claim to Rory whatsoever. She disliked him and did her best to ignore him. This is fact. All the times he teased Dean and tried to make him angry was also jealousy because Dean was with Rory and he couldn't be...
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